ugly-selfie

IM SORRY BUT MY BEST DEFENSE AGAINST THE WHOLE N WORD DEBATE IS THAT IT’S USED SO MUCH IN POPULAR CULTURE TODAY WHETHER BY BLACK PEOPLE OR NOT IT’S USED AND THAT MEANS IT’S A WORD AND THAT MEANS IT’S OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO USE AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT THEN PETITION TO HAVE IT…

ugly-selfie

I agree but then you have to tell Lil Wayne and Drake and Kanye to stop saying the word because it’s disrespectful.

So the “n word” was given to the slaves to degrade them and make them less than human. “Nigger” has a double meaning, which implies ignorance and stupidity. If African Americans are trying to gain equality and to be respected among white people (which I’m not blaming black people at all this is totally on white people I understand that) then the “n word” should just stop being used (by everyone). I’m just giving a suggestion.

blackbabydahl

Um, no. “nigger” does not mean ignorance and stupidity. It is a derogatory word used to deem African Americans as low class, subhuman beings. It in no way shape or form has ever meant ignorance and stupidity. 

And furthermore, where do you get off saying that black people need to do to gain acceptance? You cant tell me you’re not racist with an idiotic ideal like that. An entire race needs to change or stop doing something to please you? Please, shut up. I dont need to stop saying something to be ‘respectable’ to your race. The idea that me using the word isnt ‘respectable’ in the first place shows your ignorance. Whites were still respectable when they were using it, but oh the blacks are reclaiming it so now its not respectable?

If blacks want to reclaim the word or dont want to, its completely up to them. We do not now nor ever will need your irrelevant opinion on the matter.

ugly-selfie

"nigger" is a derogatory word. how is it reclaiming it when you use it as an every day slang term like "dude" or "bro"?

I never said black people “need to gain acceptance” and if I did I worded my idea wrong because what I meant was that in the world we live in today white people are the way they are, and the race debate is still going on and the fact is that in some places black people are still seen as inferior. and don’t call me a racist, you’re being incredibly hostile and there’s no need for that.

blackbabydahl

If African Americans are trying to gain equality and to be respected among white people - Your exact words. I do not need your respect.

And so what if the race debate is still going on and in some places blacks are seen as inferior? What does that have to do with you? I will deal with the racism I face in my own way without your irrelevant and wrong opinions. Who cares if you dont understand how we reclaim the word? This is apart of our struggle. Not yours. 

Hostile? LMFAO. Oh God, a black person is calling you out on your racist, white supremacist ideals! They’re so hostile! Why cant they nicely and sweetly tell you that your opinion is offensive as hell. Forgive me for being soooo mean. (-__-) 

ugly-selfie

see I understand you’re offended but you calling me a racist is fairly offensive too. idk what you want from me. sorry that other white people were slaveowners. sorry your ancestors got called the n word. I tried giving a suggestion and am immediately called racist.

yeah white people were respected when they called black people niggers because that was the time. I’m sorry about that. you’re right, white people have really bad supremacy idealisms that are still happening but I’m sorry.

sorry that you think I’m racist for trying to give ideas on how to solve the race issue.

to be honest, I don’t know you and could give a shit whether you respect me or not but I didnt insult you with my response so the least you could do is not insult me.

if you don’t need my respect then I won’t give it to you. but that’s fairly counterproductive to your argument, isn’t it? sorry again, but shouldn’t the ultimate goal of equality include respect from both sides? I’m sorry. once more I didn’t mean to offend. My bad.

blackbabydahl

Wow. You have to be one of the silliest I’ve ever had the misfortune of meeting. The term racist is NOT offensive. You want to know what’s offensive? You typing the n-word repeatedly. It’s a racial slur that you keep using. Racial slurs are offensive. But the term racist is not offensive. Please stop. Your hurt feelings over being called a racist are not the same as what someone feels when they actually get called a racist word. Racism is not an offensive word!

Im laughing so hard because you really dont get it. You mention white people having supremacist idealism yet dont realize I was referring to YOU and that YOUR ideal is a part of it! The idea that no one (not even black people) should be able to say the n-word is a white supremacist idea! We dont need your opinion or suggestions because the word is ours to do with however we please! It is a supremist ideal to think that you can come along and say “hey you shouldnt use it bc you dont want anyone else using it!” That’s like saying I cant watch my own TV bc I dont want other ppl watching it.

And yes you did insult me with your response bc you still cant get it threw your thick head that its offensive.

shouldn’t the ultimate goal of equality include respect from both sides

YES! You are absolutely right. Respect from both sides. I’m going to respect you for not using a racial slur and you should respect my right to want to reclaim if I want. Since you’re all about equality and respect, you should have no problem understanding that.

ugly-selfie

1) I never called you a Nigger or used it in a malicious way I’m merely using it in context so please relax

2) a word is offensive if someone takes offense to it so if you call me a racist and I take offense to it then that means the word is offensive

3) again you’re insanely hostile AGAIN even though I’m just trying to have a discussion

4) white supremacy is a slight exaggeration, I’m not trying to overthrow you or your ideals

5) fine reclaim your word I don’t even care anymore because I don’t use the word to begin with and nobody I know uses it so I don’t know why I even bothered

6) I’m “silly” because I tried having a discussion about racism which I’m on Y O U R side about

7) nobody takes anyone seriously who uses insults and makes rude remarks and slanderous comments about a person so I would tone that down if I were you

8) please just don’t even bother responding because I’m sure it’ll be something like “your comment just proves you’re a racist and an idiot” or some other insult

blackbabydahl

1) As a white person, YOU CAN NEVER SAY THE N-WORD. Dont tell me to relax when you keep using a racial slur. But your not racist right?

2) HAHAHA Take your own advice Mr. I’m offended that you called me a racist.

3) I’m hostile because Im pointing out your bullshit. LMAO. I assure you, I’m very calm. You seem to be the only one with their panties in a bunch. But hey, you have every reason to be when you’ve been found out to be racist.

4) HEY EVERYBODY!! The white supremacy we deal with is only an exaggeration! The white guy says its not real so now all of our experiences dealing with white supremacy are invalid! It’s also really funny how white supremacist ideals are now an exaggeration after they’ve been tied to you yet earlier in the post you said “white people have really bad supremacy idealisms that are still happening but I’m sorry." Back pedaling are we?

5) You dont use the word yet you typed it how many times in the duration of this conversation? it’s still using the word.

6) LOL You are not on MY side. I have white ally friends and they are all very understanding that they have no space or right to speak on the reclamation of a racial slur other than to tell people that its black people’s choice on the matter. You are not an ally if you dont even understand the simply dynamics of why we need to in the first place. 

7) Ah, the tone police. A common tactic of racists when telling people of color why they are not being taken seriously. Victims do not need to be sweet and civil to their attackers, molesters or rapists. Do not expect people of color to be sweet and civil to racists. Im definitely not going to be nice to you when Im telling you what your doing wrong and you ignore it and continue to do it because you dont like the way Im telling you. How I tell you doesn’t change what YOU did.

8) Yeah, Im through arguing with you too sweetheart. But your post will be a handy reference on HOW NOT TO BE AN ALLY and HOW RACIST COVER THEIR TRACKS BY PRETENDING TO BE ON YOUR SIDE. Thanks!