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aridara said:
@mizumanta Please, explain THAT one. You claimed that the police believed that the bomb was real. You also acknowledged that the police didn’t call for any evacuation.
Either you’re lying, or you are an imbecile. There’s no other way you could’ve made such an asinine statement. And given your outright hostility towards Mohamed, I’m going with “malice” as an explanation for why you made that statement. 
mizumanta said:
@aridara so far you have shown that you do not have proof, but assumptions to back you up. You have shows race based prejudice (racism) in your argument, and you have shown that you only really see race in these cases. I know i said it was the last time last time but…you if you cant get passed that much, i dont know why i am even bothering. aridara said:
@mizumanta No, I’m assuming that it’s racism because A) he was treated extremely unfairly;
B) non-white children being treated unfairly is common;
C) white children, in comparison, are not;
D) You (who believes this wasn’t racism) made up countless amounts of bullshit, culminating in assuming that the police didn’t want to evacuate the school WHEN THEY BELIEVED THAT AN ACTIVE BOMB WAS IN THE SCHOOL. mizumanta said:
@aridara “do you know how to read non-white letters” see, that would be proof of racism. Race based prejudice fueling your actions. mizumanta said:
@aridara and dont go around getting angry that i didnt answer your trap question when you cant answer a legitimate one of proving that it was actually racism. Not “something bad happened and he’s a minority”. Actual proof. mizumanta said:
@aridara your argument is based purely on assumption. That is why I don’t consider it reliable. That is why i don’t consider it valid. You assume he was treated unfairly because of his race. You have no actual proof that this was the reason. I have no reason to take you seriously with that. aridara said:
@mizumanta No, I’m saying that he WAS treated unfairly, and that this shit happens disproportionately to non-white children. Do you know how to read non-white letters? aridara said:
@mizumanta You’re an imbecile. “Yeah, schools have bomb drills all the time for little things. Hey, we have an actual live bomb at school, let’ not call for any evacuation”. mizumanta said:
Literally all you are saying is that he may have been treated unfairly. You have not offered proof that he was treated that way because of his race. “Oh, discrimination exists, so this must be racism” no. That isnt how this works. aridara said:
-they didn’t yell “KILL THE ARAB” while doing all of this? mizumanta said:
@aridara if the police are called about a bomb, especially in a school, they must take it seriously. Schools have bomb drills for the most bullcrap threats like before big exams. They still get treated seriously. And if they actually know where the suspected bomb is, they can handle it without a drill. aridara said:
@mizumanta They interrogated the kid for 90 minutes without contacting the parents - which, given that Mohamed called for them, is ILLEGAL. Handcuffed him in front of an entire school.
And this is ONE example. We’ve got literally studies showing how non-white children facing disproportionate amount of shit for little things, while white kids generally get away with much worse with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
But, according to you, that wasn’t racism because- mizumanta said:
@aridara using your logic, you are disagreeing with me, a black man. That makes you racist. Black people can be discriminated against by any race, and you are treating me unfairly. I use your logic to assume you just must be racist.
Pretty lazy, but it is convenient, so i see why you do it. aridara said:
@mizumanta As for the school/police: they mistook a clock for a bomb, despite supposedly being knowledgeable enough to recognize a clock. Despite at least one teacher knowing that it was a clock, the cops believed it was a bomb until a lot of time after their arrival - meaning that nobody at the school (except Mohamed) told them. Despite claiming “we believe it was a bomb”, nobody called for an evacuation. mizumanta said:
@aridara you still haven’t made any actual connections to the treatment and his race. And you only proved my point by calling me racist without any real evidence.
I am sure when you get older and hopefully wiser, you will look back on your line of thinking as the childish cringey buzzfeed-esque opinion that it is. aridara said:
@mizumanta You STILL haven’t answered. Instead, you made lots of false accusations, assumed the worst scenarios (against Mohamed) with no evidence, and flat-out ignored every single issue I pointed out.
THAT is my evidence that you’re being racist. mizumanta said:
@aridara final message, since you refuse to see things objectively: at the end of the day, you just assumed it was racism. Your only “evidence” was that he was treated unfairly and is a minority. You didn’t connect the two with actual proof. It is an assumption. It is both lazy and dangerous to do this. I really hope you learn better down the road. aridara said:
@mizumanta -charge). Lie after lie after lie.
Tell me again why I shouldn’t think that you’re racist? Because you sure seem willing to lie a lot about a non-white kid.
Not to mention how you STILL didn’t explain why was he handcuffed in front of the entire school? Why the parents weren’t contacted, despite the fact that he called for them? If everyone believed that it was a bomb, why did nobody, at any point, attempted to evacuate the school? mizumanta said:
@aridara i get it, you are surrounded by bad activism and buzzfeed, and politicians and celebrities trying to gain popularity, but you really need to look at things objectively. I get treated unfairly all the time. But i don’t just jump to accusations of racism just because of the color of my skin. There are so many variables and to just look at my skin color and jump to that conclusion is just lazy. mizumanta said:
@aridara “well he has dark skin, so it has to be racism” is such a lazy way to assess situations. It’s why hate crime cases are a joke now. aridara said:
@mizumanta Then you falsely claimed that he pretended it was a bomb until after making it ring (he didn’t; he showed it to his engineering teacher beforehand, telling him immediately that it was a clock). Then you falsely claimed that he made the clock “look like a weapon” (keep in mind that we’re talking about teachers from a school with STEM-LEVEL programs, yet they cannot distinguish a clock from a bomb? Especially since there wasn’t anything resembling an explosive c mizumanta said:
@aridara “until proven racism” does mean something. You just jump to racism so quickly that you stopped looking for reasoning. You have to prove that they were treating him unfairly due to his race. You can believe he was treated unfairly, but without evidence to why, you cannot assume racism. That is lazy and dangerous mizumanta said:
@aridara dude, i have seen your blog and your arguments. You are so adamant that everything is racism, regardless of evidence (which you still haven’t provided) that you refuse to see these situations as anything but.You jump to those conclusions bc of flimsy circumstantial evidence aridara said:
@mizumanta No I asked a specific question. That you failed to answer. “Until proven racism” means nothing, if you can’t even give one example of what you’d consider “racism”.
You also made up straight-up bullshit about Mohamed. First you falsely claimed that he made “bomb jokes for weeks”. Then you falsely claimed that he pretended that the clock was a bomb until the police was called (he didn’t - he immediately told the teachers that it was a clock). mizumanta said:
@aridara during the facebook live kidnapping when a group of black people tortured a white guy on live video, i didnt view it as racism until they started chanting “f*ck* white people” while torturing him. That showed racial motivation. mizumanta said:
@aridara my bar isnt “unreasonably high”. It is essentially “innocent until proven guilty”. “Not racism until proven racism”. That is pretty reasonable. I dont jump to conclusions of racism just because of the person’s skin color. mizumanta said:
@aridara you asked a loaded question. You asked a question where, regardless of the answer, you would twist it to for your narrative. You sound like those cnn interviewers who ask “do you think we should pinch nazis or let them turn the US into nazi Germany?” mizumanta said:
@aridara they handcup people on the scene. That’s a thing police do. That includes in a school. I know first hand that it happens to kids of all races, including white. mizumanta said:
@aridara you are really bad at making counterarguments. Mohamed had been making bomb jokes beforehand and had been purposely portrayed the clock to be a bomb. Any student of any race who does that would have gotten the same punishment. Schools have a zero tolerance policy for that. aridara said:
@mizumanta So, no, you don’t believe in “It’s not racism until proven otherwise”.
You believe in: “It’s not racism, and no reasonable amount of proof will make me think otherwise”. Good job. aridara said:
@mizumanta Moving on. Your standard is NOT “It’s not racism until proven otherwise”. Why do I say this? Because when I asked you how high you placed the bar for “proven otherwise”, you avoided the question.
If you had a reasonably high bar, you would’ve stated it. You didn’t: this suggests that your bar is unreasonably high. aridara said:
@mizumanta So: you still cling to the “Mohamed wanted to make a bomb hoax” even after the glaring contradiction that he TOLD the teachers that it was a clock. BEFORE making it ring.
You also can’t explain other bullshit like why they handcuffed him in front of the entire chool; or why the police refused to contact the parents despite Mohamed asking for them (which is ILLEGAL).
Why? Because Mohamed isn’t white? You provide no alternative reason. mizumanta said:
@aridara in the end, your only “proof” that this is incident is the result of racism is that he has dark skin. That’s it. And that isnt enough. It should never be enough. mizumanta said:
Racism mizumanta said:
@aridara and when you go around calling everything racism just because the person being punished isnt white, you dilute the term. Actual instances of racism will have more doubt on them since there are dozens of baseless claims for every serious one. I’ve been dealing with this my entire life. People in my neighborhood and even some family members have been caught red handed committing serous crimes, but because the person calling the police or the officer is white, people call the arrest… mizumanta said:
@aridara “you get one shot” chill out with that. You see it as racism until proven otherwise (or more likely even if it is proven otherwise), while i see it as not racism until proven so. Him having dark skin isnt enough to call it racism. If he had been called a terrorist before pretending to bring a bomb in school, or if people were blaming him for 9/11 then sure, call it racism. But you literally have a student who pretended to have a bomb be arrested as a threat. That’s standard procedure. mizumanta said:
@aridara he doesnt have to ring it first to get in trouble. If i brought a sealed container to school and kept saying it was a bomb, i would face consequences before i ever proved that it wasnt a bomb. aridara said:
@mizumanta See, here’s the problem: tell me what kind of evidence you would require before admitting “Alright, [event] was racist”. You get one shot. aridara said:
@mizumanta Again: if he wanted to make it seem like a bomb until the police was called, why did he tell the teachers that it was just a clock BEFORE ringing it, let alone before the cops were called? mizumanta said:
@aridara when you go around calling everything racism, you trivialize the term. People no longer take responsibilities for their actions and people like the second student are not judged fairly. You see the color of their skin and shut out any other info. You assume it’s racism right then and their. And that only perpetuates fear tactics in our society that negatively affect “poc”. 
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